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		<title>By: Philip Tymon</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-6506</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Tymon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really get the point of the article. Some charities may be corrupt. So what? How does that apply to Goodsearch any more than any other way of donating to a charity? If you want to tell people to be careful who they donate to tell them that. If there is something specifically wrong with Goodsearch&#039;s model, focus on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really get the point of the article. Some charities may be corrupt. So what? How does that apply to Goodsearch any more than any other way of donating to a charity? If you want to tell people to be careful who they donate to tell them that. If there is something specifically wrong with Goodsearch&#8217;s model, focus on that.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO SURVIVOR</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-6418</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO SURVIVOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all so much for contributing to this conversation.

I know a lot of the people involved in this comment thread heave been asking about this post. Questions like: &quot;Why would you advocate against this?&quot;, and &quot;They are legitimate, what&#039;s the big deal?&quot;.

I just want to point out that this blog post isn&#039;t saying that GoodSearch is &quot;bad&quot;, or that it isn&#039;t legitimate. When I wrote this in 2008, I saw the potential for corruption and fraud, through a well-intentioned platform, and that&#039;s what I wrote about. It has been over two years now and I&#039;m not quite sure what has changed with GoodSearch, maybe I&#039;ll take a look and write a new post about it. :P

Anyway, keep the comments coming. I&#039;m fascinated by what has been brought up here.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all so much for contributing to this conversation.</p>
<p>I know a lot of the people involved in this comment thread heave been asking about this post. Questions like: &#8220;Why would you advocate against this?&#8221;, and &#8220;They are legitimate, what&#8217;s the big deal?&#8221;.</p>
<p>I just want to point out that this blog post isn&#8217;t saying that GoodSearch is &#8220;bad&#8221;, or that it isn&#8217;t legitimate. When I wrote this in 2008, I saw the potential for corruption and fraud, through a well-intentioned platform, and that&#8217;s what I wrote about. It has been over two years now and I&#8217;m not quite sure what has changed with GoodSearch, maybe I&#8217;ll take a look and write a new post about it. <img src='http://www.seosurvivor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, keep the comments coming. I&#8217;m fascinated by what has been brought up here.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Butch</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use Goodsearch and the money does to our church. I know this since my wife is the office manager at our church. I would agree its not a lot of money but it is a directly linked to how many people list your charity when they use the site. Whats the big deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use Goodsearch and the money does to our church. I know this since my wife is the office manager at our church. I would agree its not a lot of money but it is a directly linked to how many people list your charity when they use the site. Whats the big deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-6313</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the point of the article. Because some charities may be unscrupulous, we shouldn&#039;t use Goodsearch at all?

My child&#039;s school notified us of Goodsearch a few years ago, and I use it for the majority of my internet searches (sometimes I can&#039;t get good results, so I search &quot;google&quot;, click the link, and do my search there).

As far as what counts to earn money, I believe the terms say that no credit is given for site-specific searches, so if you looked up &quot;seosurvivor.com&quot;, no credit would be given. So look up &quot;seosurvivor&quot;, and there is one cent for your chosen charity.

Unfortunately, it seems I am the only one from my child&#039;s school who uses Goodsearch, but still, the school has received a couple hundred dollars over the years. You can track how much money has been earned, and it shows by searches and shopping percentages. You can check this in real time (for searches anyway), and you will see that each time you search, one cent is added to the totals.

What is the downside? Why would you advocate against this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the point of the article. Because some charities may be unscrupulous, we shouldn&#8217;t use Goodsearch at all?</p>
<p>My child&#8217;s school notified us of Goodsearch a few years ago, and I use it for the majority of my internet searches (sometimes I can&#8217;t get good results, so I search &#8220;google&#8221;, click the link, and do my search there).</p>
<p>As far as what counts to earn money, I believe the terms say that no credit is given for site-specific searches, so if you looked up &#8220;seosurvivor.com&#8221;, no credit would be given. So look up &#8220;seosurvivor&#8221;, and there is one cent for your chosen charity.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it seems I am the only one from my child&#8217;s school who uses Goodsearch, but still, the school has received a couple hundred dollars over the years. You can track how much money has been earned, and it shows by searches and shopping percentages. You can check this in real time (for searches anyway), and you will see that each time you search, one cent is added to the totals.</p>
<p>What is the downside? Why would you advocate against this?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Keenan Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Keenan Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually not a scam in any way.  If a non-profit changed all of their searches to be through Goodsearch, it would actually all be going through Yahoo, who would make some legit money from retailers and advertisers, and it would kick back some of that money to the non-profit who drove the traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually not a scam in any way.  If a non-profit changed all of their searches to be through Goodsearch, it would actually all be going through Yahoo, who would make some legit money from retailers and advertisers, and it would kick back some of that money to the non-profit who drove the traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Geeaea</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeaea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all the limitations to goodsearch taken for granted, let&#039;s examine the neo-contemporary definition of &quot;charity&quot;.

Non-profit has turned into &quot;hide the baloney&quot;.  That is, the bury what would be profits.  

Does the fire company get to buy discount equipment since the company making it is virtuous since it&#039;s used in &quot;saving human lives&quot;?  Nope.  It&#039;s darn expensive ..as are the fire engines ..ambulances ..the medi-vac helicopter ..the pilot ...etc..etc. 

Does the cancer research center have technicians and physicians that do this fine and noble work at a discount?  The buildings ..hospitals ..the institutions ..the construction company that builds them ..the architects that design them 

..do any of them do it &quot;for the love of humanity&quot;?  Nope.  All CASH baby CASH!!  

I&#039;ve worked in several alleged non profit orgs ..and the same recurring theme emerges EVERY TIME.  The INSTITUTION is what gets served ..and the alleged object of their purpose is merely the financial grease that runs the machinery.  

I had my YMCA call and ask for donations to provide programs for needy people.  I asked in new people were being hired to administer to these needy people.  Were new rooms being built?  Where added costs going to be incurred?  .....or........was the donation going to be charged off to space/personnel that are already on payroll/budget ...adding no cost to the facility.  

I never got the answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the limitations to goodsearch taken for granted, let&#8217;s examine the neo-contemporary definition of &#8220;charity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Non-profit has turned into &#8220;hide the baloney&#8221;.  That is, the bury what would be profits.  </p>
<p>Does the fire company get to buy discount equipment since the company making it is virtuous since it&#8217;s used in &#8220;saving human lives&#8221;?  Nope.  It&#8217;s darn expensive ..as are the fire engines ..ambulances ..the medi-vac helicopter ..the pilot &#8230;etc..etc. </p>
<p>Does the cancer research center have technicians and physicians that do this fine and noble work at a discount?  The buildings ..hospitals ..the institutions ..the construction company that builds them ..the architects that design them </p>
<p>..do any of them do it &#8220;for the love of humanity&#8221;?  Nope.  All CASH baby CASH!!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in several alleged non profit orgs ..and the same recurring theme emerges EVERY TIME.  The INSTITUTION is what gets served ..and the alleged object of their purpose is merely the financial grease that runs the machinery.  </p>
<p>I had my YMCA call and ask for donations to provide programs for needy people.  I asked in new people were being hired to administer to these needy people.  Were new rooms being built?  Where added costs going to be incurred?  &#8230;..or&#8230;&#8230;..was the donation going to be charged off to space/personnel that are already on payroll/budget &#8230;adding no cost to the facility.  </p>
<p>I never got the answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Las A. Reath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Las A. Reath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^ WHAT HE SAID !!!! ^^^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^ WHAT HE SAID !!!! ^^^^</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tierney</title>
		<link>http://www.seosurvivor.com/goodsearch-in-greedy-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is much ado about nothing.  Goodsearch is perfectly legitimate if people take the time to research what non profit they choose to contribute to.

First, you have to have a 501 c 3 registration with the federal government to be registered  with Goodsearch.  This takes up to a year with lots of scrutiny. You also have to file 5 years of records to get out of your temporary status with the tax exempt status. Non profits with more than $25,000/year (and I think that is being lowered) have to file a very detailed tax return.  All of this information is available on line.

Second:  Most people use goodsearch to raise money for a particular organization.  I direct a program called Step by Step in WV. We&#039;ve been around for twenty years, run after school, summer and youth leadership programs. We are asking all our staff and our donors to use Goodsearch as a way of raising money to expand the transportation $ to get kids to summer food sites.  All but 3 of the kids one of the programs we run are eligible for free lunch under federal guidelines which means their families are really hurting when breakfast and lunch are not provided out of the school year.  We work to get them to a place where they can have reading, arts, recreation, science and service projects and we feed them two meals. (and take them swimming if we can..._)

Is using the money for this a &quot;big fat bonus.&quot;????

Goodsearch is a fundraising tool.  Non profits don&#039;t get &quot;bonuses&quot; they raise money for programs. If they are not effective, they fold.

This doesn&#039;t mean that there are not some corrupt practices out there, but I doubt anyone who cares enough to go through goodsearch to do their searches (because it does take a little more time than simply keeping a favorites list) isn&#039;t also capable of doing a little, largely web based research, to find out if their intended charity is legit.

This article is a cheap shot. Why not take the time to help people figure out how to make sure their charities are legitimate rather than discourage people from using a very simple means of contributing to their cause.

People should not contribute to a charity they have not checked out. Any charity listed in Goodsearch should be something people can track down--find a web page, call up, etc.  But this is something you should do for any place you contribute to whether or not you heard about them from a newspaper, goodsearch or in person.

Let me close by highlighting a passage in the article I found particularly objectionable:

Let me give you an example. Say you work at a Non-profit that is registered with GoodSearch. Your Non-profit has 150-200 employees. You make it mandatory that all of your employees use GoodSearch’s toolbar, and that every time they have to search online, they use that engine. Then, at the end of the year you get a nice “bonus” from GoodSearch.

a), Again, this is fundraising, not a bonus. All $ that go to non profits have to be used for their mission and do not go back into private hands
b) Why sneer ar organizations trying to integrate their techonological development with a little fundraising.
I quote a friend of mine who once responded to another friend who kept on obsessing on little details like this:
&quot;If you have this much energy, shouldn&#039;t you use it for something that will save people&#039;s lives?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is much ado about nothing.  Goodsearch is perfectly legitimate if people take the time to research what non profit they choose to contribute to.</p>
<p>First, you have to have a 501 c 3 registration with the federal government to be registered  with Goodsearch.  This takes up to a year with lots of scrutiny. You also have to file 5 years of records to get out of your temporary status with the tax exempt status. Non profits with more than $25,000/year (and I think that is being lowered) have to file a very detailed tax return.  All of this information is available on line.</p>
<p>Second:  Most people use goodsearch to raise money for a particular organization.  I direct a program called Step by Step in WV. We&#8217;ve been around for twenty years, run after school, summer and youth leadership programs. We are asking all our staff and our donors to use Goodsearch as a way of raising money to expand the transportation $ to get kids to summer food sites.  All but 3 of the kids one of the programs we run are eligible for free lunch under federal guidelines which means their families are really hurting when breakfast and lunch are not provided out of the school year.  We work to get them to a place where they can have reading, arts, recreation, science and service projects and we feed them two meals. (and take them swimming if we can&#8230;_)</p>
<p>Is using the money for this a &#8220;big fat bonus.&#8221;????</p>
<p>Goodsearch is a fundraising tool.  Non profits don&#8217;t get &#8220;bonuses&#8221; they raise money for programs. If they are not effective, they fold.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that there are not some corrupt practices out there, but I doubt anyone who cares enough to go through goodsearch to do their searches (because it does take a little more time than simply keeping a favorites list) isn&#8217;t also capable of doing a little, largely web based research, to find out if their intended charity is legit.</p>
<p>This article is a cheap shot. Why not take the time to help people figure out how to make sure their charities are legitimate rather than discourage people from using a very simple means of contributing to their cause.</p>
<p>People should not contribute to a charity they have not checked out. Any charity listed in Goodsearch should be something people can track down&#8211;find a web page, call up, etc.  But this is something you should do for any place you contribute to whether or not you heard about them from a newspaper, goodsearch or in person.</p>
<p>Let me close by highlighting a passage in the article I found particularly objectionable:</p>
<p>Let me give you an example. Say you work at a Non-profit that is registered with GoodSearch. Your Non-profit has 150-200 employees. You make it mandatory that all of your employees use GoodSearch’s toolbar, and that every time they have to search online, they use that engine. Then, at the end of the year you get a nice “bonus” from GoodSearch.</p>
<p>a), Again, this is fundraising, not a bonus. All $ that go to non profits have to be used for their mission and do not go back into private hands<br />
b) Why sneer ar organizations trying to integrate their techonological development with a little fundraising.<br />
I quote a friend of mine who once responded to another friend who kept on obsessing on little details like this:<br />
&#8220;If you have this much energy, shouldn&#8217;t you use it for something that will save people&#8217;s lives?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lemastre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemastre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s the problem?  The rules are spelled out.  Use the Goodsearch feature.  You may make a little money for your charity.  You will not lose any.  My major gripe with Goodsearch is that it doesn&#039;t offer the resources of Google.  And it occasionally gets overloaded and denies access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the problem?  The rules are spelled out.  Use the Goodsearch feature.  You may make a little money for your charity.  You will not lose any.  My major gripe with Goodsearch is that it doesn&#8217;t offer the resources of Google.  And it occasionally gets overloaded and denies access.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LCN: You can choose to use cliches and whatnot for glasses being half full or empty, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that by using GoodSearch.com, you are effectively making advertisers give more money to Yahoo, a for-profit company. Sure, more money goes to non-profits as well, but you seemed to miss two other key elements of my argument: &quot;the only way revenue is generated is through clicking on paid search results, not regular ones. On top of that, it states that most high-traffic sites won’t even count toward the totals.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LCN: You can choose to use cliches and whatnot for glasses being half full or empty, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that by using GoodSearch.com, you are effectively making advertisers give more money to Yahoo, a for-profit company. Sure, more money goes to non-profits as well, but you seemed to miss two other key elements of my argument: &#8220;the only way revenue is generated is through clicking on paid search results, not regular ones. On top of that, it states that most high-traffic sites won’t even count toward the totals.&#8221;</p>
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